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Eric Lindblom

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Systems Deliberative Inquiry:

Banathy Protocol:

Discovery

Construction

Systems


Note: Quotes below from Bela Antal Banathy


"The unification of science is normally treated as an epistemological issue with the ontological (and perhaps teleological) aspects being left to a divine creator, simply ignored, or barred from scientific discourse. This is science operating in a "discovery" mode."


"As scientific and technological synthesis was achieved, what we knew about the world became projected onto the world, and we literally began to construct our reality. At this point science started to operate in a "construction" mode...


"The questions are not merely: how can science be unified, or how can the human condition be improved? The questions are: How can the improvement of the human condition become the basis for the unification of science? How can the unification of science become the basis for the improvement of the human condition? These are the questions that systems scientists in general, and ISSS in particular, must address.

The questions become particularly urgent when we consider the scale at which we are modifying the inheritance of future generations.

These may be meaningless-questions, meaningless in the sense that they can only be addressed at a different level of consciousness. They call for a new conception of science and a new conception of what a system is; conceptions grounded in more than mere epistemology; conceptions that also embrace ontology, and teleology. The interrelation of the three will lead to science operating in a "systemic" mode.

Bela Antal Banathy

http://www.isss.org/1999incm.htm


"Bela Antal Banathy’s call for this 1999 meeting of the International Society for the System Sciences brings the sentiments and goals of the General Systems Theory founders back to the forefront again - the universe is a concurrence of many diverse processes - a singular and compatible concurrence. So, it is not unreasonable to assume that that "compatibility" may indeed be understood as shared qualities and fundamental characteristics, which have simply been seen in alternative expressions of form and guises prior to now. By examination and careful evaluation it should be possible to determine what those shared characteristics, relationships, and mechanisms are.

This presentation will be an effort to examine and specifically example what the challenge of a search for such truly new ways of thinking entails. We start from preconditioned biases, forcing ourselves to become aware of those constraints first, and then move on toward generic interpretations of events and processes that we see, marking similarities and setting criteria standards for how the search should best proceed. We bring all our previous knowledge with us, placing it on the observation table, and allow it to be dissected as if it were something totally new and unknown. No vested interests, no seniority, and the obligation to account for divergent perceptions. The old thoughts are assumed to harbor inherent insights, even as our goal is a new, more complete, and all encompassing vision. By determining the shared characteristics of ‘systems’ and ‘processes’ we can producing a true General Theory."

 James N Rose
Ceptual Institute


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